Land Rover Series II

"BATC42" (BATC42) 09/29/2015 at 03:57 • Filed to: None

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So this nice Land Rover Series II on one of my walk around Auckland. It seems to be a Series II, but I’m thrown off by the vertical blinkers. Series II or not? As a bonus, an old F or d Transit after the jump.

TA4K > BATC42 09/29/2015 at 04:24

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Another Aucklander! that pic with the Landie looks like... Devonport/Milford?

BATC42 > TA4K 09/29/2015 at 04:30

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Nope, it was on College Hill going up to Ponsonby.

Richtofen, Baron von Pickup > BATC42 09/29/2015 at 04:37

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So, was the Land Rover’s design similarity to a Churchill heavy tank intentional?

p33t - wagons 4 lyfe > BATC42 09/29/2015 at 04:57

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Registered on the 24th Dec 1962 https://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=en3…

That would make it an early Series IIa

TA4K > BATC42 09/29/2015 at 05:13

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Ahh yup I can see how that fits now. Used to work in Ponsonby.

pip bip - choose Corrour > BATC42 09/29/2015 at 05:54

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Lucas.

Left

Us

Cold

And

Stranded

BATC42 > TA4K 09/29/2015 at 06:12

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Nice! I really love the area. I’m currently living in the city centre, close to the Uni. At least until December, then I’m going back to France :)

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > BATC42 09/29/2015 at 08:55

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My guess would be an early ex-military IIa. I don’t know why, but the vertical light side/indicator lights are almost exclusive to the military vehicles. Probably a convoy regulation or something.

BeaterGT > BATC42 09/29/2015 at 09:58

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Just saw one of these in Portland. Was in much worse shape :(

PyramidHat > pip bip - choose Corrour 09/30/2015 at 06:07

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Lucas: Prince of Darkness

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > p33t - wagons 4 lyfe 10/15/2015 at 10:12

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Coming very late to this post, but it seems you’ve got things well in hand.

I don’t really know the full history of the fill panel in front of the radiator support, but the flat panel of that style would fit in with it being an early early IIA - most ones post ‘63 that I’ve seen have a rounded one. The earlier IIs have one that’s part steel and part aluminum and looks different, but a lot of IIs have a flat one like that.

Also, before ‘65 (I think) when fenders got standardized for signals *and* lights, some people put the signals on military style like this, but after that point the only ones with lights like this were military.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 10/15/2015 at 10:15

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They’re almost exclusive to mil, but not quite. I think the vertical set was regulatory in some way, but then before the mid-60s when fenders were standardized for two lights each, the stampings didn’t have but one place for a light, and some markets were sort of add-your-own. North American ones were never sold sans signals, but there are a good number of IIs and some early IIas elsewhere that are vertical probably due to having the lights applied “however”.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/19/2015 at 13:57

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That Chevy up at the yard, it’s a 1940 Master 45(?) That’s what he said, but I assume he means 1945 Chevy Master Deluxe?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 10/19/2015 at 14:09

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No, there actually was a Chevy Master line, which ended up spinning off the Deluxe line, which had the Special Deluxe and Master Deluxe... at the same time as the Deluxe spinoff, they launched the Fleetline trim, which then was a trim level for the Fleetmaster, and then became a line for the Special & the Deluxe, then becoming Deluxe only. Basically, all Chevrolet model designations from about ‘33 to the mid fifties are barking mad.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/19/2015 at 14:48

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That’s bonkers. So can I safely assume it’s a 1940 Master 85? Also, desirable or not Stateside?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 10/19/2015 at 15:07

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Desireable -ish. In theory a Master would be worth less than a Master Deluxe, but most Masters that you see these days would almost certainly be sold as Master Deluxe because the naming scheme didn’t make much sense then and makes less now. Pricing is hard, because the majority have had drivetrain alterations by now - the few that are stock are barely more than another classic, but they are/were a popular hot rod base. Here’s an example of a pretty exemplary one that’s stock:

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/ca…

And here’s a typical modded one on the lower end:

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/de…

In both cases, that would be around a retail to high retail price for what’s offered, but it’s tricky because mods sometimes add value to rods and sometimes don’t. I *think* a ‘41 would be more desirable due to a more iconic/distinctive front shell - the ‘40 looks more ordinary.

I’ve actually met a man who has a very nearly brand new ‘41 Master 85, but isn’t doing a thing with it. He’s a Ford man (no, really, that’s pretty much the reason).

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/19/2015 at 15:53

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Yeh but Chevy runs deep, no? Have you aked him that??

I’m surprised that stock is generally cheaper than ‘rod, especially due to the age of the vehicle. That said, if they aren’t particularly rare then I can begin to understand it.

I’ll get some pics when I can, and you can tell me what age it really is.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 10/19/2015 at 16:10

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The gent with the Master cares not so much for the car - his specialty was ‘50s-’60s Ford F-series trucks, of which he had some real beauties. One much like this, for example:

An original pristine ‘32 Ford three-window is usually worth more than rod unless from some legendary signature shop. Same with some choice Model As, or perhaps a fastback ‘47 Chevy Fleetline with all options. Something less desirable like a ‘62 Falcon? A properly built rod monster retails for easily 3-4 times as much on value of parts alone. A ‘40 Chevy base model is somewhere in the middle.